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Post by Pete Hebron on May 10, 2015 20:06:24 GMT
Anyone doing the Indy 500? My oval sr is too low so I've got to get that up first.
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Post by duckfoot on May 11, 2015 22:50:55 GMT
Did some testing for it a few weeks ago. I was 0.8 sec off the pole pace, but I don't know if they were doing qualifying runs or draft-happy or what.
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Post by Pete Hebron on May 12, 2015 0:21:46 GMT
What sort of times were you doing? My next 2 weeks will be taken up trying to get my SR up enough to take part
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Post by Troy Eddy, aka Jarhead on May 12, 2015 16:50:03 GMT
What sort of times were you doing? My next 2 weeks will be taken up trying to get my SR up enough to take part My suggestion for you is to start running the Rookie Street Stock series. It is at Charlotte this week. Don't qualify and start in the pits. Hang back at least 5 seconds from the last driver and do everything you can to avoid any contact with other cars or the wall. You should be able to pick up around .1 SR for every race. Another series you could try is the National series which is at Iowa. You can potentially get more SR there, but it is a smaller track which is harder to stay clean on. If you try to hang back, you end up getting lapped with the chance of getting hit by the leaders. The rookie street stocks are a much safer bet, plus they have races every hour.
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Post by Pete Hebron on May 12, 2015 17:11:40 GMT
I ran a couple of National series time trials last night, boring but I'm getting 0.13 SR everytime. Only need to do about another 8 and I'll be good to go.
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Post by duckfoot on May 13, 2015 3:26:01 GMT
40.83 is the best I can do race pace.
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Post by duckfoot on May 13, 2015 23:13:20 GMT
Got it to a 40.62.
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Post by Troy Eddy, aka Jarhead on May 14, 2015 11:25:31 GMT
What are you using for a race setup? I have found a decent qualifying setup on the IndyCar forums, but haven't found any race setups yet. I will try to remember to post my qualifying setup later when I get home.
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Post by duckfoot on May 14, 2015 16:49:28 GMT
All I've done is take the fixed and start knocking the aero out. I'm completely new to Indy cars so the learning curve is quite steep for me.
I'm going to race on the attrition strategy. Not gonna lie. :-D
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Post by Pete Hebron on May 14, 2015 18:00:04 GMT
I have a set up I can put on here when I get home.
My first try I was running a best of 40.784
I am getting closer to being able to run, my oval sr started at D2.28 on Sunday and I've got it up to D3.41 now. Not far to go.
If anyone runs oval races regularly could they explain full course yellows and a basic fuel strategy. Is it like Nascar where under yellow everyone pits, but not on the same lap?
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Post by Troy Eddy, aka Jarhead on May 15, 2015 0:34:51 GMT
As promised, here is the set I have been playing with for qualifying. The very best lap I have run so far is 39.676. It is capable of more, but not very much. 2015 Indy 500 Q V1.sto (3.04 KB) Edit: I took the fixed setup, reduced the aero some, changed the ARBs and adjusted the pinion and offset for smoother steering. My best laps are 40.5xx early in the run and 40.9xx to 41.1xx late in the run. I'm having to play with the weight jacker a lot in the beginning and then later lifting for T1 and even lifting for T2 real late in the run. Start with WJ +5 for the first 5 laps. Then start running +7 in T1, but backing down to +5 for T2-T4. When it starts to get loose, drop the rear ARB to 3, and run the WJ +3 for T1, +1 for T2, and +2 for T3 & T4. You will also need to lift in T1 and possibly T2. Really late in the run, you will have to lift in all the corners. 2015 Indy 500 R V1.sto (3.04 KB)
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Post by Pete Hebron on May 15, 2015 1:16:24 GMT
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Post by Troy Eddy, aka Jarhead on May 15, 2015 11:17:32 GMT
The one from Shaun Cole is another qual setup. I'm still looking for a good race setup that will be stable for a full fuel run.
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Post by duckfoot on May 16, 2015 1:08:24 GMT
If anyone runs oval races regularly could they explain full course yellows and a basic fuel strategy. Is it like Nascar where under yellow everyone pits, but not on the same lap? Yes, it is the same. Lap cars pit on the lap after lead lap cars. The basic principle is the same about how much fuel to take: only take as much as you need. However, there's several scenarios that you need to understand: 1. Track position: If I stay out, will I finish higher than if I pitted (assuming you restart in the same spot you were in)? For example, let's say it's 15 to go, you're in 20th on the lead lap, and the caution comes out. Do you come in with the leaders? If you do, you'll restart around 20th, have the same fresh tires as the leaders, so it's likely that you'll finish 20th. However, if you stay out, you inherit the lead, but you'll have 19 hungry wolves to hold off for 12ish laps. Even though you probably won't win, you'll hold off some of them and definitely finish higher than if you come in. 2. Doing what the leader doesn't (and will it work?): Say you're 8th in the same scenario, 15 to go and the caution comes out, but there's only 9 cars on the lead lap. In principle, if you're near the tail end of the lead lap under a caution, it doesn't hurt you to come in and get new tires because you can't lose any spots. Sure, you could stay out, but do you think you could hold off 7 cars with fresh tires? Doubtful, but again, what do you have to lose? In this case, you do what the leader doesn't do. If the leader stays out, you come in. Now YOU'VE got the fresher tires. If the leader comes in, you stay out. Now YOU have the track position. At the beginning and middle of the races, always come in and get new tires unless you're only a couple laps on your set. However, late-race cautions are a BIG game of cat-and-mouse as to who decides to do what.
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Post by Troy Eddy, aka Jarhead on May 16, 2015 19:18:09 GMT
If anyone runs oval races regularly could they explain full course yellows and a basic fuel strategy. Is it like Nascar where under yellow everyone pits, but not on the same lap? Yes, it is the same. Lap cars pit on the lap after lead lap cars. The basic principle is the same about how much fuel to take: only take as much as you need. However, there's several scenarios that you need to understand: 1. Track position: If I stay out, will I finish higher than if I pitted (assuming you restart in the same spot you were in)? For example, let's say it's 15 to go, you're in 20th on the lead lap, and the caution comes out. Do you come in with the leaders? If you do, you'll restart around 20th, have the same fresh tires as the leaders, so it's likely that you'll finish 20th. However, if you stay out, you inherit the lead, but you'll have 19 hungry wolves to hold off for 12ish laps. Even though you probably won't win, you'll hold off some of them and definitely finish higher than if you come in. 2. Doing what the leader doesn't (and will it work?): Say you're 8th in the same scenario, 15 to go and the caution comes out, but there's only 9 cars on the lead lap. In principle, if you're near the tail end of the lead lap under a caution, it doesn't hurt you to come in and get new tires because you can't lose any spots. Sure, you could stay out, but do you think you could hold off 7 cars with fresh tires? Doubtful, but again, what do you have to lose? In this case, you do what the leader doesn't do. If the leader stays out, you come in. Now YOU'VE got the fresher tires. If the leader comes in, you stay out. Now YOU have the track position. At the beginning and middle of the races, always come in and get new tires unless you're only a couple laps on your set. However, late-race cautions are a BIG game of cat-and-mouse as to who decides to do what. Very good advice there George. In most of the official series races, you won't need any fuel for fixed series and you will only need one pit stop for fuel in the open series. In those races you might still want to pit for tires depending on how many laps you have. This race is different for the fact that you will need several stops for fuel even if it went green the whole way which I highly doubt any of the splits will. So it is a good idea to pit for fuel and tires on every caution until near the end when strategy comes in to play as George explained above. Another thing to add for the IndyCar races which is different from the NASCAR races. The restarts after cautions are single file, there is no lucky dog, and the lapped cars are only shuffled to the back when there are 10 or less laps to go.
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